Dave Higton wrote >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/testing/test5.html > Yours doesn't seem to create much output at all - certainly no date, > although the code is clearly in there. here is what I see: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/nolink/jsdate.jpg NS #2863 John -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx