I'd more or less given up on them (using WebsterXL when I actually needed to see stats), but I discovered by accident today that sitemeter.com appears to have un-broken their advertisement-inserting code: it no longer contains a separate </BODY> tag, and thus the pages no longer end prematurely under the spinning cube when viewed in NetSurf! (Either that, or the adverts in question are being blocked by later editions of NetSurf, of course....) So if any of the other RISC OS people who were originally recommended this stat-counter site like me are still around - it's now usable again from NetSurf. :-) -- H. Bazley Questions are a burden to others, but answers are a prison for oneself.