3:44 p.m.
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes <dave(a)triffid.co.uk> wrote:
Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version.
Running the same version here, no problem.
The message reads "Scanning fonts-please wait" So how many
hours does
one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to
finish.
After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing
on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a
back button reset.
Try removing that font from your !Fonts directory. If that solves the
problem it means that something is amiss with the font. Having scanned
the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf stores the result in !Scrap.
Thus, to avoid font-scanning at every start-up, !Scrap should not be
kept in a RAMdisc. After the fonts have been scanned, NetSurf normally
loads in about ten seconds, on a SARPC.
Tony
4:01 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article
<acdcd54550.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony
Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Having scanned the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf
stores the result in !Scrap. Thus, to avoid font-scanning
at every start-up, !Scrap should not be kept in a RAMdisc.
That does not seem to be the best place to store such info.
Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just for *very*
temporary stuff that is not needed over the long term.
I cannot be the only person who clears out scrap every so
often!
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4:21 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article <5045d76fa5rh.lists(a)virgin.net>,
Russell Hafter - Lists <rh.lists(a)virgin.net> wrote:
That does not seem to be the best place to store such info.
Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just for *very*
temporary stuff that is not needed over the long term.
I cannot be the only person who clears out scrap every so
often!
A problem addressed by Rob Kendrick's Caches application:
<quote>
!Caches provides a shared location for the storage of transient cache data.
It is intended to be used instead of !Scrap or Choices for data that's
helpful to keep around, but not the end of the world if it is deleted. It
was created to let people keep cached data if they store their !Scrap in
a RAM disc.
</quote>
But if people/developers don't take advantage of it ...
... what are we to do?
I myself use Scrap for some Pic_Index data - if you delete it it just takes
a little longer to start, just like NetSurf!
John
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4:41 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article <5045d943c8lists(a)picindex.info>, John Williams
<lists(a)picindex.info> wrote:
In article <5045d76fa5rh.lists(a)virgin.net>, Russell
Hafter - Lists <rh.lists(a)virgin.net> wrote:
> That does not seem to be the best place to store such
> info. Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just for
> *very* temporary stuff that is not needed over the long
> term.
> I cannot be the only person who clears out scrap every
> so often!
A problem addressed by Rob Kendrick's Caches application:
Can you say where to find it?
Google was no help at all.
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4:48 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article <5045db09b0rh.lists(a)virgin.net>,
Russell Hafter - Lists <rh.lists(a)virgin.net> wrote:
Can you say where to find it?
Google was no help at all.
I found it in my Resources directory! But unfortunately nothing uses it.
I'm sure Rob reads this list from time-to-time and will be able to tell you
- but applications need to adopt it /if present/ and fall back to Scrap if
not.
Unfortunately, NS doesn't, and neither does Pic_Index!
They could!
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4:16 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article <acdcd54550.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes <dave(a)triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version.
Running the same version here, no problem.
> The message reads "Scanning fonts-please wait" So how
many hours does
> one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to
> finish.
>
> After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing
> on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a
> back button reset.
Try removing that font from your !Fonts directory. If that solves
the
problem it means that something is amiss with the font. Having scanned
the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf stores the result in !Scrap.
Thus, to avoid font-scanning at every start-up, !Scrap should not be
kept in a RAMdisc. After the fonts have been scanned, NetSurf normally
loads in about ten seconds, on a SARPC.
Tony
Thanks for the thoughts.
But. This is the first time Netsurf has constipated itself with a font
scan, and I've been using Netsurf for a long time, updating usually once a
week.
The font in question has been there for a long time also.
I never have !Scrap in a Ramdisk, probably because I *never* have a Ram
disk activated.
As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP, then
running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o
constipation.
Dave
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5:27 p.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes <dave(a)triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP, then
running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o
constipation.
You do that each time you start NetSurf, or did the problem not recur?
Tony
1:41 a.m.
New subject: Font Scanning
In article <984bdf4550.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes <dave(a)triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP,
then
> running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o
> constipation.
You do that each time you start NetSurf, or did the problem not
recur?
Tony
Machine was totally frozen by the Netsurf constipation, I did a Back
button Reset Boot.
Machine back in action.
Switched off all the fonts, Ran Netsurf, Switched the Fonts back on.
Thereafter no problems. Netsurf runs okay, and there is a ...RUfl_cache in
the required place.
Dave
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