Hi, As it says in the subject, the problem with connecting NetSurf through IPCop has gone. This is probably due to a change in v1.4.0, which I've just installed to replace the 1.3 installation I had before. A nice'n'easy installation, with the only complication being my not RTFM on my ADSL modem before I did it. Leaving that aside, it was back up in an hour. Strongly recommended. I can't get to the management pages, though. The error is "SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK" IE also muttered about this, but I can tell it to ignore things like that on my local network. Cheers Mike -- Mike Gilbert Webstuff at www.lewisgilbert.co.uk