9:18 a.m.
the other day i tried to read a webpage that had blue print on a dark
blue background. i couldn't make out the text.
now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display > Document colours) that
could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for short.
could i suggest this for Netsurf, please?
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9:36 a.m.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:18:13 GMT
Jim Nagel <netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
the other day i tried to read a webpage that had blue print on a dark
blue background. i couldn't make out the text.
now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display > Document colours) that
could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for short.
could i suggest this for Netsurf, please?
This has been a long-standing feature request, and it will happen when
somebody with the spare time chooses to do it. Unfortunately, there
are plenty of other more interesting things to do at the moment :(
7:07 a.m.
Rob Kendrick wrote on 30 Nov :
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:18:13 GMT
Jim Nagel <netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> the other day i tried to read a webpage that had blue print on a
dark
> blue background. i couldn't make out the text.
>
> now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display > Document colours) that
> could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for short.
>
> could i suggest this for Netsurf, please?
This has been a long-standing feature request, and it will happen
when
somebody with the spare time chooses to do it. Unfortunately, there
are plenty of other more interesting things to do at the moment :(
a couple of sites just to underline this longstanding feature request:
http://libraryofavalon.org.uk
http://www.smoothartist.com this one is close to home! ;=}
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7:25 a.m.
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:07:36 GMT
Jim Nagel <netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display >
Document colours)
>> that could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for short.
>>
> This has been a long-standing feature request, and it will happen
> when somebody with the spare time chooses to do it.
a couple of sites just to underline this longstanding feature request:
We are well-aware of the reasons for people wanting it. It still
doesn't make the problem interesting or urgent enough for it to get
done. Of course, anybody is welcome to help out and implement this
feature.
B.
6:37 p.m.
On 2 Mar 2009, Rob Kendrick <rjek(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:07:36 GMT Jim Nagel
<netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk>
wrote:
> > > now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display > Document colours)
> > > that could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for
> > > short.
> > >
> > This has been a long-standing feature request, and it will happen
> > when somebody with the spare time chooses to do it.
>
> a couple of sites just to underline this longstanding feature
> request:
We are well-aware of the reasons for people wanting it. It still
doesn't make the problem interesting or urgent enough for it to get
done.
Meanwhile, a workaround is to click in the window then press ctrl-a, to
select all the text, which is then readable, black on white.
Tony
8:56 p.m.
Tony Moore wrote on 3 Mar:
Meanwhile, a workaround is to click in the window then press ctrl-a,
to
select all the text, which is then readable, black on white.
excellent, excellent! why didnt i think of that workaround?!
'tis verily a hint&tip to go into the magazine now.
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2:53 a.m.
new twist on this one.
> On 30 Nov 2008 Jim Nagel wrote:
>
>> the other day i tried to read a webpage that had blue print on a dark
>> blue background. i couldn't make out the text.
>>
>> now, gold ol' Fresco had an option (Display > Document colours) that
>> could be deselected in a case like this. Shift-F5 for short.
>>
>> could i suggest this for Netsurf, please?
Rob Kendrick wrote on 30 Nov :
> This has been a long-standing feature request, and it will happen when
> somebody with the spare time chooses to do it. Unfortunately, there
> are plenty of other more interesting things to do at the moment :(
Jim wrote on March 2:
a couple of sites just to underline this longstanding feature
request:
http://libraryofavalon.org.uk
http://www.smoothartist.com this one is close to home! ;=}
today i met the designer of the first site and the colour issue came
up. he points out that it is designed to be simple black text on a
white background. i tried Firefox, and verily i see simple black on
white. i checked with Fresco, and it too shows black on white.
so why is Netsurf (r6761 and 6288 before) showing unreadable blue on
black?
the second site is by Michael Drake. Netsurf shows his links as
unreadable blue on black, whereas Firefox shows them underlined white
on black.
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Jim
Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd (01458) 83 3603
Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861
3:48 a.m.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:53:58 GMT
Jim Nagel <netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
so why is Netsurf (r6761 and 6288 before) showing unreadable blue on
black?
This might give a clue, from the site's CSS;
body {
background-color: 000000; <--- Buh?
margin-top: 50px;
margin-right: 40px;
margin-bottom: 10px;
margin-left: 40px;
font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif;
}
B.
4:06 a.m.
In article <1f59773a50.jim(a)nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel
<netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
Jim wrote on March 2:
> a couple of sites just to underline this longstanding feature
> request: http://libraryofavalon.org.uk
> http://www.smoothartist.com this one is close to home! ;=}
today i met the designer of the first site and the colour issue came
up. he points out that it is designed to be simple black text on a
white background. i tried Firefox, and verily i see simple black on
white. i checked with Fresco, and it too shows black on white.
Look at the source of http://libraryofavalon.org.uk
It refers to a CSS loa.css, the source of which says:
body { background-color: 000000; .....}
i.e. black. There are no other colo(u)r definitions I can see, so
everything else is default. So you have black text on black in NetSurf.
Other browsers don't get this 'right' because it should say:
body { background-color: #000000; .....}
^
NetSurf isn't bothered by a little missing hash. All other browsers are
hippies, obviously.
so why is Netsurf (r6761 and 6288 before) showing unreadable blue on
black?
It's right. Sort of. But FF, MIE, Opera, Safari, and Chrome also don't
agree and want their hash.
the second site is by Michael Drake. Netsurf shows his links as
unreadable blue on black, whereas Firefox shows them underlined white
on black.
Michael has defined colours in the body tag
<BODY TEXT="#ffffff" LINK="#ffffff" VLINK="#aaaaaa"
BGCOLOR="#000000">
Unfortunately (and perhaps very surprisingly) NetSurf ignores LINK and
VLINK in BODY so unless link colours are set with a CSS default colours
only apply. When the background and default link colour are the same or
too similar, netsurf is useless. Wonderful otherwise, of course. :-)
HTH
T
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www.timil.com
4:48 a.m.
Tim Hill wrote on 11 Mar:
body { background-color: 000000; .....}
i.e. black....
... NetSurf isn't bothered by a little missing hash. All other browsers are
hippies, obviously.
thanks, Tim; excellent. i shall forward your analysis to the
webmaster in question. he struck me as the sort who will know what
you mean. ;=}
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3:33 p.m.
In article <2c43130650.jim(a)jim7.nagel.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel
<netsurf(a)abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
the other day i tried to read a webpage that had blue print on a dark
blue background. i couldn't make out the text.
[Snip]
could i suggest this for Netsurf, please?
In these situations I either highlight the text or export the text
dragging it to the Netsurf iconbar icon.
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