6:08 a.m.
November 15 version:
On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page initially
shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down
results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on
returning to the top part that appears correctly.
So far I have not had memory problems but with this version I have had a
message to say Netsurf running short.
Any comments?
Thanks
Gerald
7:29 a.m.
On 20 Nov 2009 "Gerald Dodson" <gerald.dodson(a)argonet.co.uk> wrote:
November 15 version:
On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page
initially
shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down
results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on
returning to the top part that appears correctly.
So far I have not had memory problems but with this version I have
had a
message to say Netsurf running short.
Any comments?
Only ignorant ones from someone who doesn't understand the
technicalities :-(
This is with RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9677 and broadband.
The BBC sites in general seem to be getting more and more bloated. The
BBC front page, which I have as my home page, with its 100+ images
(really needed?) takes 25 seconds or so to load, and I can no longer
edit it significantly. It takes quite a time to load in Windows
Firefox, too, though I haven't timed it.
I've given up on the BBC weather sites, for just the reason that
Gerald mentions. The Metcheck sites (try
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS
for instance) seem to work better, though this had just taken 35
seconds to load, but hasn't made huge inroads into memory.
I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder
what the experts have to say?
With best wishes,
Peter.
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Anne \/ __ __ \ England.
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5:26 p.m.
Dr Peter Young <pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
This is with RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9677 and broadband.
The BBC sites in general seem to be getting more and more bloated. The BBC
front page, which I have as my home page, with its 100+ images (really
needed?) takes 25 seconds or so to load, and I can no longer edit it
significantly. It takes quite a time to load in Windows Firefox, too,
though I haven't timed it.
NetSurf r9677 on OS5.14 takes 13.5s to load the BBC's home page and 9.5s to
load my post code weather page :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/4290?area=CM15
I've given up on the BBC weather sites, for just the reason that
Gerald
mentions. The Metcheck sites (try
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS for
instance) seem to work better, though this had just taken 35 seconds to
load, but hasn't made huge inroads into memory.
6.2s here. Nice site though.
Firefox 3.5.5 on Windows 7 Ultimate takes about 2-3s to reach the BBC's home
page, that is with a 2*2GHz processor. Snow Leopard is all but instant
running on a 2*3.06GHz processor.
I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder
what
the experts have to say?
Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about Peter's
broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at over
700kB/s.
--
David Pitt
MessengerPro on iMac, Snow Leopard
5:51 p.m.
On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt <pittdj(a)pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
Dr Peter Young <pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I
wonder what
> the experts have to say?
Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about
Peter's
broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at over
700kB/s.
Yes, indeed, I know my broadband is on the slow side; as I understand
it, we're about at the maximum distance from the exchange. Putting in
the timings was a way of pointing out what I think is an unnecessary
amount of bloat on the BBC sites, not to complain about slowness!
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
Anne \/ __ __ \ England.
and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk
7:03 p.m.
Dr Peter Young <pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt <pittdj(a)pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> Dr Peter Young <pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder
> > what the experts have to say?
> Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about Peter's
> broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at
> over 700kB/s.
Yes, indeed, I know my broadband is on the slow side; as I understand it,
we're about at the maximum distance from the exchange. Putting in the
timings was a way of pointing out what I think is an unnecessary amount of
bloat on the BBC sites, not to complain about slowness!
The BBC site is certainly not slimline at all but even my slowest non-RISCOS
machine, XP on a single 1.4MHz core, copes well. Lots of sites are over
complicated these days.
The BBC site does offer, debloated?, versions for mobiles, and at this point
I find a minor snag. On the BBC's home page some links are not displayed in
Netsurf at the top left in the purple bit above the BBC logo, fortunately
the Mobile link is present. Chase that around for a while to reach this
which is a bit quicker, (but not a lot), :-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/d/index.mobile.shtml
--
David Pitt
MessengerPro on iMac, Snow Leopard
9:41 p.m.
On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt <pittdj(a)pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
Dr Peter Young <pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 21 Nov 2009 David Pitt <pittdj(a)pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Dr Peter Young
<pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> I suspect this is all the fault of the BBC web-people, but I wonder
>>>> what the experts have to say?
>>
>>> Given the general slowness reported I would have doubts about Peter's
>>> broadband speed. I get about 6000kb/s and Firefox 3.5.5 downloaded at
>>> over 700kB/s.
>>
>> Yes, indeed, I know my broadband is on the slow side; as I understand it,
>> we're about at the maximum distance from the exchange. Putting in the
>> timings was a way of pointing out what I think is an unnecessary amount of
>> bloat on the BBC sites, not to complain about slowness!
The BBC site is certainly not slimline at all but even my slowest
non-RISCOS
machine, XP on a single 1.4MHz core, copes well. Lots of sites are over
complicated these days.
The BBC site does offer, debloated?, versions for mobiles, and at
this point
I find a minor snag. On the BBC's home page some links are not displayed in
Netsurf at the top left in the purple bit above the BBC logo, fortunately
the Mobile link is present. Chase that around for a while to reach this
which is a bit quicker, (but not a lot), :-
Useful to know, and thanks, but here, with my slow broadband line,
it's not that much faster.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
Anne \/ __ __ \ England.
and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk
6:56 p.m.
In message <f8e15ebd50.pnyoung(a)pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> you wrote:
snip
I've given up on the BBC weather sites, for just the reason that
Gerald mentions. The Metcheck sites (try
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS
for instance) seem to work better, though this had just taken 35
seconds to load, but hasn't made huge inroads into memory.
Peter.
This seems a v.good site just one thing I could not get the tools:
Metric/Imperial button to do anything in Netsurf and had to resort
to Windros to find the URL which entered into Netsurf gives it:
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/my_units.asp
you then have choices of:
Temperature: Celsius (°c)/Fahrenheit (°f)
Rainfall: Millimeters (mm)/Inches (in)
Wind Speed: Miles per Hour (mph)/Kilometres per Hour (Kph)
/Knots (Kt)/Metres per second (m/s)
Pressure: Millibars (mb)/Inches (in)
Height: Metres (m)/Feet (Ft)
Once set to your liking it seems to stay set even when loading
the originl URL
--
Erving
4:56 a.m.
On 20 Nov 2009, Dr Peter Young wrote:
On 20 Nov 2009 "Gerald Dodson"
<gerald.dodson(a)argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> November 15 version:
> On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page initially
> shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down
> results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on
> returning to the top part that appears correctly.
> So far I have not had memory problems but with this version I have had a
> message to say Netsurf running short.
> Any comments?
Only ignorant ones from someone who doesn't understand the
technicalities :-(
This is with RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9677 and broadband.
The BBC sites in general seem to be getting more and more bloated. The
BBC front page, which I have as my home page, with its 100+ images
(really needed?) takes 25 seconds or so to load, and I can no longer
edit it significantly. It takes quite a time to load in Windows
Firefox, too, though I haven't timed it.
I've given up on the BBC weather sites, for just the reason that
Gerald mentions. The Metcheck sites (try
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS
Unfortunately, yet again, the synoptic charts (in NetSurf) (isobars)
are static, and do not respond to T+12, T+24 etc, nor to nudge
up/nudge down. In fact, I haven't found any 'animated' Synoptic Charts
that work on Netsurf.
Yes, I know I can download the Non-javascript version, but that is not
as easy to see the progression of the isobars, since all the graphs
are displayed at once, and not animated in the same place.
--
Cheers
Roger
Today is yesterdays tomorrow and it's already gone
7:38 p.m.
In article <49539.82.153.33.53.1258751334.squirrel(a)email.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
Gerald Dodson <gerald.dodson(a)argonet.co.uk> wrote:
November 15 version:
On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page
initially
shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down
results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on
returning to the top part that appears correctly.
I can't reproduce this. What's the exact URL and do you have some location
set?
If you are having trouble with the development build, I suggest you run
NetSurf 2.1 for the time being.
Michael
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
9:39 p.m.
On 21 Nov 2009 Michael Drake <tlsa(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
In article
<49539.82.153.33.53.1258751334.squirrel(a)email.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
Gerald Dodson <gerald.dodson(a)argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> November 15 version:
> On first accessing the BBC weather site the part of the page
initially
> shown is blank and there is a error occurs with a png. Stepping down
> results in the image on the lower part of the page being shown and on
> returning to the top part that appears correctly.
I can't reproduce this. What's the exact URL and do you have
some location
set?
If you are having trouble with the development build, I suggest you
run
NetSurf 2.1 for the time being.
Yes, 2.1 renders that site a bit faster, and without running out of
memory; thanks.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
Anne \/ __ __ \ England.
and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk
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