In message <20050823032226.D248C13969(a)sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net&gt; netsurf-develop-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Failed to PayPal complete here. I suspect a PayPal problem though as it was seeking a direct debit to a bank although a current credit card is registered with them and has been used. On topic the form as seen with Netsurf kept opening a new frame with just the dragged-and-dropped text from the invaluable !Insert; unlike some browsers IIRC I could go back to the previous page, and all was as expected. -- Charles tel 020 8949 0708 / mob 079 5620 0176/ fax 087 1243 9075