7:05 a.m.
At some point since last Saturday, the UK National Lottery
web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ , seems to be
unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it from Windows using
Firefox. I'm using r9045.
Does anyone know what's happened?
John
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John McCartney
j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
7:16 a.m.
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 23:05 +0100, John McCartney wrote:
At some point since last Saturday, the UK National Lottery
web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ , seems to be
unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it from Windows using
Firefox. I'm using r9045.
Does anyone know what's happened?
Without more details, no.
What, exactly, happens when you try to visit that site?
John.
3:40 p.m.
In article <1249596971.14617.14.camel@duiker>, John-Mark
Bell <jmb(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 23:05 +0100, John McCartney wrote:
> At some point since last Saturday, the UK National
> Lottery web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ ,
> seems to be unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it
> from Windows using Firefox. I'm using r9045.
>
> Does anyone know what's happened?
Without more details, no.
What, exactly, happens when you try to visit that site?
Sorry, I [wrongly] assumed you would have NetSurf running
under RISC OS and could see from the link.
NetSurf appears to load data from the site but the throbber
just keeps going with nothing displayed in the window and
the info bar at the bottom of the window says:
OK (incrementing time display in seconds) Received 0.00 B
Normally, the basic page loads almost instantly followed by
a few seconds worth of image loading and a then a final
update as the last image is downloaded. Now, after a minute
or so, NetSurf is still displaying the message above and
the window stays blank.
John
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John McCartney
j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
6:38 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 07:40:17AM +0100, John McCartney wrote:
> > Does anyone know what's happened?
> Without more details, no.
> What, exactly, happens when you try to visit that site?
Sorry, I [wrongly] assumed you would have NetSurf running
under RISC OS and could see from the link.
As Michael's mail might hint at, unfortunately we have no-one on the project
who is dedicated to the RISC OS frontend. As such, our use of NetSurf on RISC
OS is purely incidental. Michael will run it up to check layout stuff, and
John-Mark sometimes manages to fix a bug sight-unseen, but mostly we're a bit
stuck on RISC OS issues :-( Do you happen to know of someone prepared to take
on the NetSurf RISC OS frontend and give it the love we know it needs?
NetSurf appears to load data from the site but the throbber
just keeps going with nothing displayed in the window and
the info bar at the bottom of the window says:
OK (incrementing time display in seconds) Received 0.00 B
This implies that there's something squiffy in the delivery of the data to the
content model. Have you since encountered this behaviour on any other site?
D.
7:58 p.m.
In article <20090807093843.GD20156(a)digital-scurf.org>,
Daniel Silverstone <dsilvers(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 07:40:17AM +0100, John McCartney
wrote:
> > > Does anyone know what's happened?
> > Without more details, no. What, exactly, happens when
> > you try to visit that site?
> Sorry, I [wrongly] assumed you would have NetSurf
> running under RISC OS and could see from the link.
As Michael's mail might hint at, unfortunately we have
no-one on the project who is dedicated to the RISC OS
frontend. As such, our use of NetSurf on RISC OS is
purely incidental. Michael will run it up to check layout
stuff, and John-Mark sometimes manages to fix a bug
sight-unseen, but mostly we're a bit stuck on RISC OS
issues :-(
I'll echo that :-(
Do you happen to know of someone prepared to take on the
NetSurf RISC OS frontend and give it the love we know it
needs?
I'm sorry, but I don't. I'm just a user, myself, and a very
grateful one for all the work that's gone into NetSurf.
> NetSurf appears to load data from the site but the
> throbber just keeps going with nothing displayed in the
> window and the info bar at the bottom of the window
> says: OK (incrementing time display in seconds)
> Received 0.00 B
This implies that there's something squiffy in the
delivery of the data to the content model. Have you since
encountered this behaviour on any other site?
No, I haven't but that's probably more a reflection of the
amount of surfing I do from within RISC OS than anything
else. I use NetSurf for checking a lottery syndicate using
Stuart Allison's !Lottery. I suppose I could check for a
suitable program for Windows but it's soooo convenient to
do it from RISC OS.
Thanks for your prompt response.
John
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John McCartney
j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
7:35 p.m.
In article <5086f539ddj.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk>,
John McCartney <j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
In article <1249596971.14617.14.camel@duiker>, John-Mark
Bell <jmb(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 23:05 +0100, John McCartney wrote:
> > At some point since last Saturday, the UK National
> > Lottery web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ ,
> > seems to be unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it
> > from Windows using Firefox. I'm using r9045.
> >
> > Does anyone know what's happened?
> Without more details, no.
> What, exactly, happens when you try to visit that site?
Sorry, I [wrongly] assumed you would have NetSurf running
under RISC OS and could see from the link.
NetSurf appears to load data from the site but the throbber
just keeps going with nothing displayed in the window and
the info bar at the bottom of the window says:
OK (incrementing time display in seconds) Received 0.00 B
Normally, the basic page loads almost instantly followed by
a few seconds worth of image loading and a then a final
update as the last image is downloaded. Now, after a minute
or so, NetSurf is still displaying the message above and
the window stays blank.
Confirmed that same thing happens here but:-
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/drawHistory.do
does work. Therefore it seems it might be just the home page that gives the
problem.
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Chris
8:03 p.m.
In article <50870ab843cvjazz(a)waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
<cvjazz(a)waitrose.com> wrote:
In article <5086f539ddj.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk>, John
McCartney <j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>
> Normally, the basic page loads almost instantly
> followed by a few seconds worth of image loading and a
> then a final update as the last image is downloaded.
> Now, after a minute or so, NetSurf is still displaying
> the message above and the window stays blank.
Confirmed that same thing happens here but:-
does work.
Not for me. I see 'Opening page...' on the info bar and the
throbber does its stuff but nothing in the window.
Therefore it seems it might be just the home page that
gives the problem.
Although I originally referenced the home page, the one I
normally go to is the results page:
www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results/results.do
which has the same problem as the home page.
John
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John McCartney
j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
7:24 p.m.
On 6 Aug, John McCartney wrote:
At some point since last Saturday, the UK National Lottery web site,
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ , seems to be unavailable to
NetSurf. I can access it from Windows using Firefox. I'm using r9045.
Does anyone know what's happened?
I've never been on the Lottery site using NetSurf before, but I can
confirm the same problem here. The page times out after 180s.
You can, however get access by going straight to the log-in page at
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/user/login.do
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Brian Howlett
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I took a course in speed waiting. Now I can wait an hour in just
ten minutes...
8:31 p.m.
In article <c8cb098750.Brian(a)bhowlett.adsl24.co.uk>, Brian
Howlett <brian.groups(a)brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
You can, however get access by going straight to the
log-in page at
I can get this page up even though I wouldn't normally try
it because I don't have an account. What I have just
discovered is that I can access the results page from the
tab on this page even though I can't go to it directly from
a URL (as a file or a link).
Further faffing about with this has led me to discover that
the results tab, on the page above, takes you to an https
address:
www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results.ftl
whereas my original URL for the results (the one which had
worked up to and including last Saturday) is an http
address:
www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results/results.do
Further faffing about has let me discover that both
https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results.ftl
and
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results.ftl
take me to the information I want.
Thanks for the lead on this, Brian. Without your link (as
shown at the top of this e-mail) I wouldn't have chanced
upon this satisfactory result.
I've also noticed that when I paste the old URL into the
address bar in Firefox under Windows, it immediately
substitutes the new URL (the last one above) and goes to
the right page. This probably happened without me noticing
it when I reported the problem in my first e-mail.
John
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John McCartney
j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
8:12 p.m.
In article <5086c61517j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk>,
John McCartney <j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
At some point since last Saturday, the UK National Lottery
web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ , seems to be
unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it from Windows using
Firefox.
Thanks for the report. Please try the latest build.
--
Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
2:44 a.m.
In article <508aa9027atlsa(a)netsurf-browser.org>, Michael
Drake <tlsa(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
In article <5086c61517j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk>, John
McCartney <j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> At some point since last Saturday, the UK National
> Lottery web site, http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/ ,
> seems to be unavailable to NetSurf. I can access it
> from Windows using Firefox.
Thanks for the report. Please try the latest build.
I've just downloaded it and it does the business! Thank you
for your prompt response.
John
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j.mccartney(a)blueyonder.co.uk
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