In article <4E77254C.6070204(a)druck.org.uk>,
David J. Ruck <druck(a)druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 19/09/2011 11:53, John Williams wrote:
> In article<a3cf1d1552.pnyoung(a)pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
> Dr Peter Young<pnyoung(a)ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> An interesting fact is that these 'little keypad
> thingies' are all the same, just badged differently.
> So if you need to, you can use someone else's - away
> from home, for example.
> Anyone wishing to discuss this, take it elsewhere, as
> it's off-topic here.
Not wishing to discuss it, only to correct inaccurate
You can't use someone else's, as each has a serial number
which needs to be registered in order that the remote end
is using the same seed for the random number generation.
DO NOT allow anyone else to see your serial number, as
following the RSA breach, the system is compromised.
While they are not all the same, some certainly are
I am sure that Druck's comment applies to the device I have
from Citibank Belgium, as I had to confirm the code off the
back to the bank before it was activated. This device is not
a card reader, it just generates a code after input of a
On the other hand, my German bank recently provided a card
reader / code generator. Before sending me one they asked if
I already had, from another bank, such a device marked V1.4,
as, they said any such device would work. This device is
quite unlike any other I have seen, as it has optical input,
though it can be used manually too.
I suspect that both the Royal Bank and NatWest ones I have
are interchangeable, though I have not tried. The Nationwide
one does seem to have similar keys, though the mode of
operation is different.
The two Swiss ones I have are not interchangeable - putting
Bank A's card into bank B's machine gies a "wrong card"
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