Netsurf's behaviour is a little bit inconsistent or at least inconvenient with framesets. For example go to http://www.bestmoments.at/catago/BestMoments/FE/Index/index and click on "ZU DEN BILDERN". The main frame changes but the back icon is not enabled. However the menu allows you to select Navigate > Back one page. Having gone back to the first page the reverse applies and you can go forward one page using the menu but not the toolbar icon. You need to click Menu in the main frame, so I can see what's happening but it's not particularly helpful. It would be better if the forward and back icons let you step through the 'pages' actually seen regardless of their structure. I think most browsers do this.

On 30 Apr 2009 Roger Darlington wrote: > On 29 Apr 2009, Richard Porter wrote: >> Netsurf's behaviour is a little bit inconsistent or at least >> inconvenient with framesets. For example go to >> http://www.bestmoments.at/catago/BestMoments/FE/Index/index >>> and click on "ZU DEN BILDERN". The main frame changes but the back >> icon is not enabled. However the menu allows you to select Navigate > >> Back one page. Having gone back to the first page the reverse applies >> and you can go forward one page using the menu but not the toolbar >> icon. >>> You need to click Menu in the main frame, so I can see what's >> happening but it's not particularly helpful. It would be better if the >> forward and back icons let you step through the 'pages' actually seen >> regardless of their structure. I think most browsers do this. > By experimentation with one of my framed sites (no comments on my > implementation of these sites please!) the way Netsurf has implemented > forward/back via menu allows you to click 'menu' over the frame-pane > that you wish to go backwards/forwards on. So, you could click on any > frame-pane. Yes but unless you click on the frame that was last updated you won't get the desired result. > Unfortunately, it doesn't update the menu pane when you > click using 'right-click' - you have to click menu again to enable > further navigation of the same frame-pane. Do you mean clicking on the right arrow?

It only works if you go back from the frameset to an earlier page, from where you can only return to the initial state of the frameset. > However, Netsurf developers could implement this way of working and > still use the navigate buttons, which is what they are there for after > all: Click on the frame-pane you wish to navigate, then click on the > appropriate Navigate button. That would be a possibility. Following a link in a frameset can only update one frame, so it should be fairly easy to track in the history. The browser needs to record the target frame, but it must already hold the information for each frame so that shouldn't be too difficult. The tricky bit is when you leave the frameset for another page and then try to go back to it in the same state that you left it in. You'd need to go back and find what object was last loaded into each frame (and framesets can be nested).