10:34 p.m.
On 5 Jun 2014, Vincent Sanders <vince(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
I am pleased to be able to announce that I have enabled the
persistent
source object cache on the RISC OS build.
That's good news. Many thanks.
[snip]
The amount of disc used for this cache is selected using the
disc_cache_size option. The RISC OS frontend does not currently have a
user interface to set this value. The cache value is number of bytes
to use on disc and a value of 0 will disable the cache completely. The
default value is set to a gigabyte.
Does that mean disc_cache_size:1073741824 ?
The disc cache now seems to be named 'Misc'? Is there any way of moving
it out of !Scrap?
Tony
10:47 p.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 08:34:08PM +0000, Tony Moore wrote:
On 5 Jun 2014, Vincent Sanders <vince(a)netsurf-browser.org>
wrote:
> I am pleased to be able to announce that I have enabled the persistent
> source object cache on the RISC OS build.
That's good news. Many thanks.
[snip]
> The amount of disc used for this cache is selected using the
> disc_cache_size option. The RISC OS frontend does not currently have a
> user interface to set this value. The cache value is number of bytes
> to use on disc and a value of 0 will disable the cache completely. The
> default value is set to a gigabyte.
Does that mean disc_cache_size:1073741824 ?
yes thats the default setting, as usual if the setting is the default
value it will not appear in the user Choices file.
The disc cache now seems to be named 'Misc'? Is there any way of moving
it out of !Scrap?
I have no idea to what you are referring, as I said in the previous
mail we are using !Cache (shipped in the !Boot of the CI builds ready
for merge) to store this persistent data.
This is because !Scrap is for transient data and many users do not
store it on persistent storage. The cache must be persistent between
runs of the browser to be useful.
Tony
--
Regards Vincent
http://www.kyllikki.org/
12:32 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
On 5 Jun 2014, Vincent Sanders <vince(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 08:34:08PM +0000, Tony Moore wrote:
[snip]
> Does that mean disc_cache_size:1073741824 ?
yes thats the default setting,
Thanks.
as usual if the setting is the default value it will not appear in
the
user Choices file.
After adding disc_cache_size:1073741824 to the Choices file, then
starting and quitting NetSurf, the line persists in the Choices file.
This led me to think that the default value, in bytes, was not correct.
> The disc cache now seems to be named 'Misc'? Is there
any way of
> moving it out of !Scrap?
I have no idea to what you are referring,
Previous versions of NetSurf create a directory www.NetSurf.Cache in
Scrap. NetSurf #1956 creates www.NetSurf.Misc , but not Cache. I assumed
that 'Misc' had replaced 'Cache'. If not, what is 'Misc'?
as I said in the previous mail we are using !Cache (shipped in the
!Boot of the CI builds ready for merge) to store this persistent data.
So the data should be stored in Resources.!Cache.Caches ? Using RO 6.20
Caches contains Single.MimeMan.MimeBase and Single.MimeMan.PluginMime.
Both of these files are in SQLite format, but their datestamps have not
changed since installing NS #1956 several hours ago.
I can't see where cached data is being stored and, since the times for
loading, and re-loading a complex page, after quitting and re-starting
NS, are not noticably different, I wonder if the disc cache is working.
How can I tell?
This is because !Scrap is for transient data and many users do not
store it on persistent storage. The cache must be persistent between
runs of the browser to be useful.
Some users prefer not to store large persistent data in !Boot, eg the
default location for Newsdir is in Resouces, but it can be re-located to
the hard drive, outside !Boot.
Tony
12:40 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 10:32:26PM +0000, Tony Moore wrote:
Previous versions of NetSurf create a directory www.NetSurf.Cache in
Scrap. NetSurf #1956 creates www.NetSurf.Misc , but not Cache. I assumed
that 'Misc' had replaced 'Cache'. If not, what is 'Misc'?
NetSurf for RISC OS long long ago had a hack of a cache for images only.
This was removed many years ago.
I guess the Misc folder is for miscellany, but searching for "Misc" in
the entire source code reveals nothing relevant at all. I have no idea
what it's for.
> as I said in the previous mail we are using !Cache (shipped in
the
> !Boot of the CI builds ready for merge) to store this persistent data.
So the data should be stored in Resources.!Cache.Caches ?
You can put it wherever you like, just as long as it is "seen" by the
Filer before NetSurf is launched.
Using RO 6.20
Caches contains Single.MimeMan.MimeBase and Single.MimeMan.PluginMime.
Both of these files are in SQLite format, but their datestamps have not
changed since installing NS #1956 several hours ago.
These have nothing to do with NetSurf, but !Caches is not unique to
NetSurf; some other software on your system may now be using it.
B.
7:50 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
In message <20140605224023.GB3021(a)platypus.pepperfish.net>
Rob Kendrick <rjek(a)netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
[snip]
> Caches contains Single.MimeMan.MimeBase and
Single.MimeMan.PluginMime.
> Both of these files are in SQLite format, but their datestamps have not
> changed since installing NS #1956 several hours ago.
These have nothing to do with NetSurf, but !Caches is not unique to
NetSurf; some other software on your system may now be using it.
These two files are present in the download zip.
--
David Pitt
Raspberry Pi
11:47 p.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
In article <4f532c1354.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
The disc cache now seems to be named 'Misc'? Is there any way
of
moving it out of !Scrap?
Here it looks like !Cache (in Resources) has now got a lot of data in
it (in NetSurf directory) after installing latest NetSurf and the
!Cache 'application', and having a short browsing session.
--
Chris Johnson
12:45 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
On 5 Jun 2014, cj <chris(a)chris-johnson.org.uk> wrote:
In article <4f532c1354.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
Here it looks like !Cache (in Resources) has now got a lot of data
in
it (in NetSurf directory)
Here, I can't see any NetSurf directory, in Resources.!Cache
Tony
1:19 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
In article <ea62381354.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Here, I can't see any NetSurf directory, in Resources.!Cache
Have you Boot-Installed the latest !Boot in the NetSurf download?
--
Chris Johnson
1:43 a.m.
New subject: Persistant disc cache
On 5 Jun 2014, cj <chris(a)chris-johnson.org.uk> wrote:
In article <ea62381354.old_coaster(a)old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
Tony Moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Here, I can't see any NetSurf directory, in
Resources.!Cache
Have you Boot-Installed the latest !Boot in the NetSurf download?
Yes. The problem was that. although installed in the default Resources,
Cache was being 'seen' after NetSurf, which was in 'Look at'. I've
now
moved Cache out of Resources, and set it to be 'seen' in 'Look at'
before NetSurf. All is now well.
Tony
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