Trying to load the local file:
fails with the error:
Couldn't open file /IDEFS::Uni01.$/WiP/thespians/archive/plays/Hay_Fever/html.h
This can be repeated every time for files in some of the other
subdirectories in the "Plays" directory; a, c, f, i, l, o, p, s and y.
All files run fine from the same location when accessed via WebJames,
other browsers are fine with the paths. The other letters of the
alphabet work perfectly. IYSWIM.
I take it there's some deep technical reason for this.
Webstuff at www.lewisgilbert.co.uk
On Mon 08 May, Paul Vigay wrote:
> In article <Marcel-1.53-0507165650-06c9GWx(a)riscpc.local>,
> Mike Gilbert <admin(a)lewisgilbert.co.uk> wrote:
> > This site is unusable in NetSurf. All I get is links saying "Enable
> > <panel>" and telling me I must have cookies enabled. To me, it seems a
> > good demonstration of Vincent Flanders' (See www.webpagesthatsuck.com)
> > contention that compliance with standards doesn't imply good design or
> > usability. I wasn't aware that I didn't have cookies enabled in NS, and
> > can't see how to enable them if they aren't.
> I did report it here last week. It's due to the broken cookie support in
> NetSurf at the moment. It does work (of sorts) here, but seems very
> intermittent, so I don't think NetSurf is correctly reading/writing the
> cookies. Best bet is to delete the cookies file in NetSurf, when click on
> the 'Enable all panels' link, which should turn them all on, then quit and
> reload NetSurf. It should then work ok, but you probably won't be able to
> turn them on or off properly.
All of which is a bit of a palaver, and I really can't be bothered.
I've started to use NS more and more, mainly because it's useful for
As an aside, I thought you were against the sort of thing that cookies
represent? I'll stand by the Flanders comment. If your site won't
downgrade gracefully, then it's as bad as those that flash up a banner
telling you you need to have IE.
> Fresco and Oregano work fine though. :-)
Yes, but they're both dead. How does Lynx cope?
Webstuff at www.lewisgilbert.co.uk
This site is unusable in NetSurf. All I get is links saying "Enable
<panel>" and telling me I must have cookies enabled. To me, it seems a
good demonstration of Vincent Flanders' (See www.webpagesthatsuck.com)
contention that compliance with standards doesn't imply good design or
usability. I wasn't aware that I didn't have cookies enabled in NS, and
can't see how to enable them if they aren't.
Webstuff at www.lewisgilbert.co.uk
A couple of days ago I needed to print out a web page, (AA route).
Trying to print it just gave an hourglass (I don't know if it would
have printed eventually, I didn't have time to find out).
So I exported the page to draw, deleted everything irrelevant and
scaled it to fit on one page, producing a much better end result than
just printing would.
At yesterday's Invicta Risc os User Group meeting, we all agreed that
this feature was incredibly useful (and those who criticised John
Cartmell for advocating it on usenet recently were wrong).
A question that just occurred to me. Is the feature intrinsic to the
RISC OS version of NS or will it be in the GTK version too? (far less
usefull on other platforms, but enough tools do exist to be a
(Is a pre-release GTK version for other platforms likely to be made
Appreciating that cookie revision is still WIP I thought to report
here rather than raise a bug report.
For many moons I have been using the 'latest' version of Netsurf to
carry out internet banking with Barclays - with no problem at all.
Today, doing my monthly visit (using the 2 May version of Netsurf) I
have had many problems - and had to revert to my linux server and Firefox
to do what was needed.
The problems and symptoms are as follows -
(1) "Your browser does not support session cookies" - it does of
course, since this message arose only after attempting to re-log-in
after a previous error report. Reloading Netsurf permitted me to try
again without this message appearing until some other error was
reported and an attempt made to continue.
(2) "You have either pressed the Stop button or double-clicked on a
button" - in fact I had done neither of these. This error seemed to
arise when I clicked on the area of the document close to a button -
perhaps just missing the button - but I did not click more than once -
just to be absolutely sure, I made this error occur several times
(having to reload Netsurf to avoid the cookie problem each time).
(3) "You have used the Back button on your browser" - again I had not
done so. This error came up on attempting to do anything after a
'first banking action'. I'm sorry I cannot pin it down more closely
than this since, when it occurred, I had followed different sequences
Of course, I appreciate that Barclays may well have changed their html
in the four weeks since I last needed to log in - but, since Netsurf cookie
revision is, as I said, WIP I felt that I ought to raise these problems
(which seem rather weird to me) here in the first instance.
Incidentally, Firefox had no problems. I am almost certain that none
of the documents used any scripting either - Barclays have never done that
so far (although Barclaycard do).
It was most disappointing to have to work on my server as I have used
nothing else but Netsurf for quite a long time now (if sites are
sufficiently foolish as to want to use a scripting language I just ignore
Keep up the good work!
On 20 April 2006, NetSurf gratuitously copied my Hotlist to Global
History. Today, having expired those entries (my cache expiry is set to
14 days), NetSurf has again copied the Hotlist to the 'today' directory
in Global History.
Current sizes: Hotlist 31KB, URL 78KB
Test Build (02 May 2006 10:15)
Loading time: 12 seconds (unchanged)
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On 4 May 2006 as I do recall,
John-Mark Bell wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > My problem is that I *have* installed PCKeys, which does remap the
> > keyboard... everywhere except text fields in the content area of NetSurf
> > windows, which keeps catching me out. I'm not quite sure what's
> > happening; does NetSurf 'catch' the keypresses at a lower level than
> > PCKeys?
> simply issue *PCKeysAddApp NetSurf (or stick it in your
> PCKeys config file). This appears to work as you'd expect.
A man's best friend is his dogma.
On 3 May 2006 as I do recall,
John-Mark Bell wrote:
> On Tue, 2 May 2006, Harriet Bazley wrote:
> > On the subject of keypress handling (although otherwise irrelevant) can
> > I add that I get somewhat disconcerted by the fact that Netsurf appears
> > to implement *some* of its key handling independently of the Wimp, with
> > the result that in some but not all cases, 'extension' modules like
> > IcnClipBrd don't seem to work?
> All text fields in the content area of NetSurf windows have nothing
> whatsoever to do with the Wimp; they are implemented entirely within
> NetSurf itself.
That's what I'd thought must be the case...
> If you wish to use old-style input, then I advise installing a module such
> as PCKeys, which will remap the relevant keys to the old way of doing
> things. It is not down to NetSurf to cater for this.
Ah - PCKeys. That was it. I thought it was IconClipBrd!
My problem is that I *have* installed PCKeys, which does remap the
keyboard... everywhere except text fields in the content area of NetSurf
windows, which keeps catching me out. I'm not quite sure what's
happening; does NetSurf 'catch' the keypresses at a lower level than
> > irrespective of the fact that I normally have this remapped, and the
> > extension "Ctrl-K" action, which deletes all text from the cursor to the
> > start of the icon... except in certain Netsurf writable icons.
> Where is this documented? It's not in my copy of the Style Guide (nor
It's a useful extension (along with a few others) provided by one or
other of the key-handling modules on this computer; I think it really
is IconClipBrd in this case, and if that only works on Wimp icons (which
makes sense, really...) it explains why it's having no effect in this
> NetSurf already implements this functionality (though with a
> different key binding):
> Ctrl-Delete will delete from the start of a line to the current caret
> Ctrl-End will delete from the current caret position to the end of a line.
Thanks; that's worth knowing.
A closed mouth gathers no foot.
In message Paul Vigay <lists-nospam(a)vigay.com> wrote:
> In article <afc0d8204e.Dave(a)user.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> David S Lawson <DAVIDsLAWSON(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Netsurf is taking a much longer time to load onto the icon bar than
>> before. Since upgrading to broadband about this date I have upgraded
>> netsurf more frequently than with dial up, I can't imagine this is the
>> cause but you never know. When I first noticed this I reverted to the
>> earlier version I still had and it loaded just as quickly as before. I
>> don't know which version except that it was pre mid April.
>> Has anyone else found this?
> Not really. Every so often there is a slow version, but I generally upgrade
> as soon as I spot a new version - and the current version (29 Apr 2006
> 20:00) is about as fast as it's ever been.
> Loads on the Iyonix including opening my default 'home page' in just under
> 2 seconds here.
Using the same version, my SA RiscPC with 4.02 takes 25 seconds to
load, the 2/5/06 10:15 version is the same.
Do I need to upgrade anything else and has anyone else found this?
On 02 May 2006, David S Lawson wrote:
> Netsurf is taking a much longer time to load onto the icon bar
> Has anyone else found this?
Yes, on 13 Apr 2006 I wrote:
> The current build is much slower to load than that of a week ago:
> Test Build (06 Apr 2006 18:00) 5 seconds
> Test Build (13 Apr 2006 00:30) 15 seconds
> SARPC RO4.39
Test Build (02 May 2006 10:15) 12 seconds
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