In message <20050626031724.B74CA88FA8(a)sc8-sf-spam1.sourceforge.net> you wrote:
> And perhaps support for more systems? I've tried Firefox myself but it
> fails to even start. I'm on a 64MB RPC SA running RO4.02, so I know that
> it should at least get somewhere, but it runs the disk for a few seconds
> then gives up without even trying.
Not sure this is the appropriate forum to discuss Firefox, but here goes.
Be patient! Even on an Iyonix it takes more than a few seconds.
Make sure you've got !Unixhome set up properly, double click on !Unixhome first then Firefox, then go away and make a cup of coffee, drink it and come back to the computer! I expect it will then have loaded. If this works, put !Unixhome in your apps directory so you don't have to load it by hand in future.
I think we're ok to discuss Firefox on this forum - I've got four browsers on my Iyonix and each has its strengths - I'm glad of all four of them. A little healthe competition never hurt anyone!
Mark Syder (like the drink but spelt different)
With several other progs on the icon bar (Messenger,Netfetch, Zap, PDF) and
whilst looking around;
I got a Netsurf is running out of memory message; When I clicked on a Buy Now
Looking in tasks I had Netsurf using 2400k Zap 540, Mpro776, mpro MsgServe
476 Net fetch 348 and Update watcher 159
I'm using 23rd June Build..... on an original Iyonix with RO 5.09.
Hope this is of help. Have turned off the Update watcher.
Now firefox is a reality and offers access to the bulk of websites
that netsurf can't use, would it be possible to have launch current
page in firefox and launch link in firefox options? (Or even in a
choice of other browsers.)
(I would expect that once the novelty of having firefox wears off, my
web browsing will still be at least half done using NS)
On 24 Jun, pv <lists-nospam(a)vigay.com> wrote:
> Looking at http://cropcircleconnector.com/2005/june2005.html the table
> all jumps over to the right, and then corrects itself towards the bottom
> of the page.
> Using 23 Jun 2005 18:15 build.
This sounds a little like the problem with my own site, where the
navigation button table on the index page is cut into two lines rather
than the single line that all other browsers display it as. Not tried it
on a recent build though, so I'll leave it at that for now.
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... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
This is just a quick note to go through some of the changes I've just added
to NetSurf, and to warn people that they'll need a copy of Tinct 0.12 (from
www.tinct.net/tinct.asp) to run it from now on. It's also heavily
recommended that you don't run !Scrap from RAMDisc, as it will negate the
benefits of some of the new functionality.
The basic changes that have been made are regarding images, image memory
and thumbnails. If everything goes well, the only bit that anyone should
notice is that they get less (hopefully none!) out of memory errors, and
that the global history and hotlist have thumbnails of the pages available
that stay there between sessions.
I guess I best mention the image memory changes in a bit more detail.
NetSurf now has a limit as to how much memory can be allocated to images at
any point in time. As soon as this limit is breached, they are either
compressed in memory (using very fast algorithms so it should not be
noticible) or saved to disk and the memory released. As much of this is done
in the background as possible to make it less intrusive, so if you notice
your HD flickering when you're not doing anything then it's probably NetSurf
freeing up some memory so it can be used when you need it.
If you feel you desperately need to set the amount of memory NS will use
then the corresponding option values are 'image_memory_direct' and
'image_memory_compressed', and the values are in KB. Setting a huge value to
the direct images will effectively turn off the feature, and a value of-1
will inform NetSurf that it should work out some reasonable values from the
current amount of free memory. The values are not precise, as the limit is
really the (approximate) amount of memory before the cache gets flushed, so
don't worry that the code isn't working if things keep on going up for a
The files saved to disk are stored in !Scrap. You can delete them if you
want, but unless you're /really/ short of hard disc space there's no need at
all. Honestly. These files are also the thumbnail images that are in the
various trees (use the + icon to view them) so you'll lose then if you do
delete the files. Also, don't assume that because a file isn't deleted then
NetSurf has forgotten about it - it hasn't. Rather than deleting the files,
it just overwrites one the next time it needs one (it keeps a record of what
it's used) so that things can run a bit faster.
Anyway, this is turning into somewhat of an essay so I'll stop now. If you
have any problems then please either submit a bug-report or post to the
list. Hope you all like the changes!
Build: 23 June 2005 18:15
Site: Any tested
Fault: the underline on weblinks doesn't draw/redraw properly. For
instance, on my (fairly minimalist) homepage, there's a full underline
on all links when first loaded. Opening a menu and wiping over the links
makes the underlines partially or completely disappear.
Webstuff at www.lewisgilbert.co.uk
At the moment, the URL suggestion mechanism seems to also remember URLs
visited by the browser (or launched by double-clicking a URI file). The
URL file (in Choices.WWW.Netsurf) can then be very large and you have to
trim it down a bit from time to time. Also, this means that the more
polluted the URL file is, the less useful it is pertinent at suggesting
good URLs. Any possibility to restrict the URL learning only to those
entered on the keyboard ? Thanks
On 20 Jun, Joe Taylor <lists(a)jettons.co.uk> wrote:
> On my setup (current Netsurf), selecting an hyperlink which uses the
> telnet protocol
> (e.g. <A HREF="telnet://arcade.demon.co.uk">Arcade</A> )
> causes Netsurf to show the hourglass but nothing happens and an escape
> must be effected via Alt-break. Oregano, on the other hand, fetches and
> runs 'Nettle' and the link is made without problem.
Hmm. I have the same with Netsurf, but all I get with O² is an error
message: "Could not find application to handle telnet://arcade.demon.co.uk"
/____Mail from John(a)JohnWoodhouse.co.uk
On an XScale powered Iyonix & RISCOS 5.09
I browse a lot my family album (mainly JPEGs with a bit HTML to bind
everything together), which quickly makes Netsurf complain about not
being able to find enough memory (the taskmanager shows a Dynamic area
which is constantly growing).
The current workaround this is quitting then reloading Netsurf.
Could there be a way of unloading the images (ala Impression "Minimise
memory", which is not a solution I like) or a solution with no user
intervention at all where the oldest file loaded (in the sense of
earliest) be discarded ?