It appears that NetSurf has taken a dislike to Eric and deGaulle, both
EFF fonts. If I choose them to display, it displays the first
alphabetically available font. 
This prompted me to change my default sans-serif font to NewSwiss.
This font has both a (Regular) weight as NewSwiss and an effectively
Medium Bold weight as NewSwiss.Medium. The current font selection
chooses NewSwiss.Medium as its base so rendering pages darker than
intended. The same would also be true of Integrated and Subway. All
three are again EFF fonts.
Could the font-finding be changed so that if a font Foo exists, it
will be chosen over Foo.Medium as a base weight?
 I have tried reinstalling the fonts with no improvement but will
try them on the spare Risc PC later. They are well used in other
applications without problems. I also rather like both of them.
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NetSurf disappears from the iconbar when I look at any of the items on
Drobe. This is what happens:
I open an item - say www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact1279.html - and wait
for the page to complete. After that, I either toggle the window to full
size or move the scroll bar down. Within moments NetSurf (build
20-02-2005.18:30 on the RiscPC and 22-02-2005.23:45 on the Iyonix) is
gone. If I open the window to full size first, NetSurf exits after the
document has been formatted, before it can start loading the images.
There's an error message 'Fatal signal received: Floating point
exception' in stderr (see http://www.aconet.org/notthere/stderr.zip for
two copies - RiscPC and Iyonix).
I haven't noticed anyone else reporting this and I can't imagine I'm
the only one visiting Drobe with NetSurf, so there must be something
wrong with my setup. The funny thing is, it happens on my Iyonix (RISC
OS 5.08) as well as my RiscPC (4.39).
I got this:
26 Feb 23:24:24 100 ***Error***
26 Feb 23:24:24 100 Title : Error from NetSurf
26 Feb 23:24:24 100 Task : Unknown task
26 Feb 23:24:24 100 Message :The Unicode font library could not be
initialized. Please report this to the developers.
26 Feb 23:24:24 100
This the stderr:
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 68: version 'Test Build (26 Feb 2005 18:45)'
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 75: NetSurf on <riscos>, node
<kinetic.ntlworld.nil>, release <4.39>, version <20040510-003>, machine
<arm-acorn> riscos/font.c nsfont_init 59: rufl_init: rufl_FONT_MANAGER_ERROR:
0x20b: FONT font not found
Current NS (24th Feb) can't even access the test build page without
an open and uninformative stderr (RO4.02, bog standard SA).
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and Climate, Southampton Oceanography Centre, Empress Dock, Southampton
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22 feb 23:45 build
I have had problems with this and previous builds disapearing off the
i can reproduce the error by typing
mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org (plain text only please)
icq: 91353267 http://itworkshop-nexus.net Using RISC OS 5.08
msn: phantasm_39(a)hotmail.com sms: 07891070734
In message <4d40eb1bdblists-nospam(a)vigay.com>
pv <lists-nospam(a)vigay.com> wrote:
> In article <Marcel-1.53-0221103557-d07tRkF(a)ekels.nl>,
> Wim Ekels <wim(a)ekels.nl> wrote:
> > Downloaded the current version (20 Feb 18:30) this morning, but this
> > leaves my icon bar immediate after starting. (the main window just has
> > the chance to show itself)
> I get exactly the same. It looks like it's as soon as it tries
> parsing/rendering a page.
> I can load it to the iconbar, go to the choices and examine the menus ok -
> and it stays on the bar. However, as soon as you try to display a webpage,
> either online or offline, it just quits immediately.
> This is on a StrongArm RPC700 with ROS 4.39
Strange with the same setup it works ok hre with me.
Well 600 instead of 700.
Kev Wells http://kevsoft.topcities.com
There are only so many times I can say sorry and still mean it.
On 23 Feb 2005 pv <lists-nospam(a)vigay.com> wrote:
> I've just downloaded the latest NetSurf, but don't know the actual version
> because this time it won't even appear on the iconbar.
> Using an Iyonix with RISC OS 5.08, it sits with the hourglass going for
> about 5 minutes, gets to about 70% and then comes up with a 'Unicode font
> resources couldn't be initialised' or somesuch error and to contact the
> developers and then quits.
> I've just emailed jmb a font report, so hopefully that may help.
> I hope it's not my SansMono font because I can't do without that one, as
> it's integral to Pluto, which is my most frequently used application! :-)
Well remove it, then any other 3rd party fonts and find out.
David J. Ruck Phone: +44- (0)7974 108301 Email: druck(a)druck.org.uk
If I use any version of NetSurf since 15 Feb, the
<URL:http://www.iyonix.com/usb2/> site takes it down very
quickly. Gzipped trimmed stderr attached.
I have also realised that NetSurf has decided to make Homerton my
sans-serif font. No font menu appears in the relevant section of
Choices. I can alter the entry in the Choices file directly which does
rufl seems not to be caching a couple of my fonts. Running rufl_chars
 tallies with this and I see that one font family is not cached at
all while another (my usual sans-serif and my Wimp font) has only its
Light, Light.Italic and UltraBold variants cached.
I have reinstalled both EFF fonts and this has not made a difference.
 and outputting the error stream to a file.
Andy Wingate <URL:http://www.sparse.net> OpenPGP key 0xC642BF8A
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On 19 Feb 2005, James Bursa wrote:
> In message
> <20050213215325.48609.qmail(a)web26803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> tony
> moore <old_coaster(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > One of the truly impressive features of NetSurf is
> > full-save. The file (application directory) saved is compact
> > and preserves most of the data which created the original
> > page. However, when moved to another platform, the format
> > causes problems.
> Thanks for the suggestions! We'll keep them in mind, but I'm
> sure you'll that compatibility with other platforms should
> take much lower priority than, for example, working on more
> HTML and CSS support.
Of course I agree with you - however there is no point in making
a suggestion after the close of play!
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 you wrote:
> A bug and some feature requests:
> Save boxes (for downloads) don't seem to like pathnames. If I type
> mem:$.fish and press return, nothing happens. If I now drag the file to
> Mem:$ directory, it complains Mem:$.mem:$.fish couldn't be saved.
Whilst I quite like NS's current download box, it occurs me to that
we've all missed a trick - saving of a zip file, say, could be done
by dragging the link to a Filer window/other app. This would have
a more RISC OS drag-and-drop feel, and would work especially well
for those sites which use something of the form:
<a href="/downloads/foo.zip"><img src="/images/zipicon.gif"></a>
ie. they already have a RO-style zip icon and the user could just
drag it to the desired location. (It could be a convention amongst
RO websites that the appropriate RO icon be displayed on the website so
that drag-and-drop saving would appear exactly like saving from
a 'Save as' dialogue.)
I'm sure somebody more knowledgable in matters HTML will tell me why
this isn't possible/feasible, though ;) (Perhaps we could resort to
use of a modifier key if that proves necessary?)
On a related point, there should be a confirmation message if you
try to close a download window before you've saved the file somewhere;
I once left a 27MB download going and later - after it had finished -
cleared away a few windows before remembering that I hadn't dragged
it to a Filer window. I was 'not pleased,' as they say.
PS. Yes, I know I should be coding these changes, and maybe I will
(though, don't hold me to it; I'm pretty busy already!) but I'd also
like to hear the experts' opinions.