My SuperSearch web page, which is a page full of forms, doesn't work very
well with Netsurf (current version).
On adding a form of your choice at the bottom and the page relading you
find the forms are cocked up as they appear invisible. :-)
Webmaster of the Acorn Cybervillage
I have Browse as main browser and Netsurf (18 Feb 2004) is installed on
When I happen to click on a https: URL and the Acorn SSL module isn't
loaded, Netsurf is launched and hangs the computer (the watchdog is
still active but asking to kill Netsurf doesn't work)
I have NetSurf 18 Feb 2004
Please keep the list CCed, it means others can answer too ;)
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Jess Hampshire wrote:
> In message
> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403131236001.14288-100000(a)tarrant.ecs.soton.ac.uk> you
> > > With respect to the memory requirements, could they be reduced by
> > > abstracting the image support to a plugin?
> > This isn't really sensible. We have the facility to produce a build
> > without any image support at all, however.
> Is this because of the way NS is built or is it that Image support
> wouldn't be possible as a normal plug-in?
Sure it would be possible, it just doesn't seem particularly sensible,
especially give that NetSurf's plugin handling is horribly broken right
now. Also, it's a lot of extra programming effort for very little
advantage, given we can turn it off in the build
> > I've uploaded a build without any SSL support (ie https URLs won't work)
> > to http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~jmb202/riscos/netsurf/ns-nossl.zip
> > Can you try this and see if it's small enough to run under 3.1?
> It runs, just, but bombs out when it runs out of memory.
Right, fine. I assume this is on a 4Meg machine?
> Am I right in thinking that the two values in the wimpslot are how much
> an app needs and how much it would like?
> Would it be possible for NS to be made to work such that if the full
> memory is available it runs normally, but if there's not enough disables
> ssl and/or images? (Meaning only one build rather thant 2 or 3)
Given that it's just a matter of which build target we use, it's not a
major issue producing more than one build.
SSL is just a library we link against, it isn't actually used unless you
access a site which uses https, so toggling it off at runtime would make
no difference to the amount of memory NetSurf requires.
Image support could be toggled at runtime, as the amount of memory it uses
depends on the images it downloads. It could also be removed from the
I am really impressed with the latest versions of NS. The new skin
looks really nice. The rendering is very much improved - it even does
some stuff better than O2. It is also nice and nippy.
Unfortuanately I have had no success with it on RO 3.1
On my real machines, I can't free enough memory to run it and on VA (+
host internet, I'm on the group) at work it refuses to resolve anything.
The last 26 bit version works fine on the same setup (though I notice I
need to delete the choices when I revert back to it.)
With respect to the memory requirements, could they be reduced by
abstracting the image support to a plugin?
This plugin could be left out for machines with low RAM to give a fast
text browser (or maybe a quick low quality alternative used)
(Perhaps different versions made that are optimised for different
systems, eg versions for select, omega, and general)
icq 91353267 http://www.b1-11.net Using RISC OS 4.37
I almost don't dare to say this, but !Netsurf crashes on the next url:
I know I will be shot for trying this, but I thought I give Netsurf a run
on this site because if it can handles this one it must be very stable 8-)
This was done with the 12 march 2004 1:45 build
Thanks for adding the ability to launch URL files. Much appreciated. :-)
I've got a wee app called !ieurl
!ieurl allows the uses of Internet Explorer URL files (Windows Favorites)
(filetyped B28) and when the user on a RISC OS machine double clicks on
them it passes the URI to a RISC OS browser to launch it.
It does this by rewriting
Set Alias$@RunType_B28 Run <ieurl$Dir>.!Run %%*0
and searches for a uri in the file.
This worked for Fresco.
But I couldn't get it to work with Netsurf (yes I know that Netsurf uses
the Acorn URI and Fresco doesn't).
Doesn't Netsurf just take the current Alias$@RunType_B28 and run it?
Or does it only read the value of Alias$@RunType_B28 when it was first
loaded and therefore it may be out of date when the user gets around to
At the moment I've got a version of !ieurl that gets around this by making
IEURL files filetype b29, this works with Netsurf, O2 and Fresco.
I suppose Netsurf could natively support IE url files by searching for the
URL= or BASEURL= line in the file instead of assuming it is in the 1st line?
Some of us have lots of IE URLs files we bring home.... :-)
does the Refresh icon do anything??
I finally got around to altering my web site so it look a bit neater in
I like Netsurf, I really do.
Webmaster of the Acorn Cybervillage
Just to let you know, the problem with Netsurf wiping itself from the
iconbar and leaving me with an hourglass seems to have been cured with
this latest release.
I've browsed a number of websites, opening a number of browser windows
and then closing each one in turn without any problems so far.
Don't know what you did to fix it but thanks.
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Netsurf is shaping up nicely, it's just got me into a site that Oregano
baulks at. Just a couple of quick things I've noticed using it, "mailto"
links don't do anything when clicked on (I'm looking at
http://www.nt-online/org/) and the Netsurf window doesn't obey the
"Cover icon bar on full size toggle" option (I've got it set to no, but
Netsurf goes right to the bottom of the screen when toggled). Also, it
tends to crash after a while with a "Submenus require a parent menu
tree" error - selecting continue or quit just results in the error
popping up again, Alt-Break works though.