I just thought I'd comment on how good the latest builds are going- it was a
real delight when I loaded up the new build and saw borders around the input
elements :) Google never looked so good.
There are one or two items I can't help but feel have been ignored when
they're fairly important. The first is re-fetching pages when you click
reload. This was commented on way back, that Netsurf just grabbed it from
the cache instead of re-fetching. In principle this doesn't seem like much
to ask for, seeing as Netsurf can already fetch pages (otherwise it would be
pretty useless! lol).
The other important element that was also commented on way back was
margins - the lack of them. Michael commented on www.arcsite.de not being
spaced out properly. This sounds like what was said before, where margins
have not been implemented Netsurf doesn't add any spaces around simple
elements like <br> and <p>. This, to me, also seems important, especially as
the clarity of websites is hindered without it.
Finally, I'm interested to know when CSS media will be implemented, and how
difficult will printing be now that the draw export renders the page to A4
anyway? While on that, I'd like to say how excellent the draw export is - I
couldn't imagine it looking any better!
Netsurf is absolutely great, really making strides of progress. Just one or
- Sometimes, when you menu-click over a Netsurf window, Netsurf will
spontaneously quit. It usually seems to happen early on in a session, but it
isn't just an isolated incident - it happens almost every time I menu-click
at the moment. The stderr file says it's a 'Floating point exception:
invalid operation', and the trace looks like this:
pc: 1797c0 sp: 1fbfa8 ^write_backtrace()
pc: 18da7c sp: 1fbfd0 ^post_signal()
pc: 18dd7c sp: 1fbfe8 __unixlib_raise_signal()
pc: 1db338 sp: 1fac94 *** UnixLib error handler ***()
a1: ffffffff a2: d2ffbad addr
pc: 3ee84 sp: 1fad48 ^ro_gui_try_mouse_action()
pc: 3e9d4 sp: 1fad6c ro_gui_mouse_action()
pc: b5664 sp: 1fadc0 ro_gui_window_click()
pc: 15eca4 sp: 1faddc ^ro_gui_mouse_click()
pc: 15e734 sp: 1fadf8 ^ro_gui_handle_event()
pc: 15e3b0 sp: 1faf30 gui_poll()
pc: b1060 sp: 1faf44 ^netsurf_poll()
pc: b0f5c sp: 1faf60 main()
pc: 178fb0 sp: 1faf78 _main()
I'm using a Risc PC StrongARM with RISC OS 4.02.
- The buttons on the toolbar look cool, but ATM 'save' doesn't seem to save,
and 'reload' and 'stop' don't seem to do anything either ;-).
- (Feature request) Would it be possible to give dragging the mouse the same
effect as scrolling up/down/left/right? I'm very used to this from Fresco and
it saves going across to the scrollbar each time.
Once again, thanks for doing such an amazing job; interestingly even
downloads seem faster from Netsurf, and the latest build seems to fly as far
as rendering is concerned.
I am not a programer and I hope it is ok to mention some websites without
knowing what exactly is going wrong.
As a co-author I am quite surprised that www.arcsite.de does not load
correctly although it is quite simple and standard HTML. There seems to be a
lack of horizontal spaces as everything is just one big block.
Also there are some more complicated sites which cause problems, like
May be it is too much to aks for a correct display but other similar sites
load (almost) perfectly, like: www.digitalkamera.de and www.spiegel.de .
This was using version: 27 Mar 2004 23:30.
I would like to request a drop down menu that contains working links to
all the urls contained in a page.
As well as links, it would display urls in meta tags, in frame sets and
in plain inline text.
It would work with relative links to other files as well as absolute links.
It should over come the problems of accessing (some) sites with
meta-refresh, frames and JS-navigation and no alternatives.
icq 91353267 http://www.b1-11.net Using RISC OS 4.37
Here's a summary of the changes in the last month:
+ French translation (Bruno D'Arcangeli)
+ New URL parser
+ URL and URI file support (John M Bell)
+ New PNG rendering module (Richard Wilson)
+ Layout fixes and improvements
+ CSS borders
+ Animated GIF support (Richard Wilson)
+ JPEG improvements
+ Save page with images and stylesheets (John M Bell)
+ Save text (John M Bell)
+ Imagemap support (John M Bell)
+ Error handling improvements
and many bug fixes and internal improvements.
Thanks for all the feedback and bug reports. We note them all, even if we
don't always reply.
The download page now shows recent changes, so you can see if your favourite
bug has been fixed :).
First of all I want to tell you how glad I am with !Netsurf. It keeps
better every hour! Yesterday I was able to download three new versions (and
there might have been even more). I can hardly keep up with this speed!
I noticed that there are some callbacks reapering after I have closed a page.
The following is from the stderr file
content/content.c content_broadcast 495: content http://acorn.cybervillage.co.uk/graphics/liquidsplash2.gif, message 7
content/content.c content_broadcast 495: content http://acorn.cybervillage.co.uk/, message 7
render/html.c html_object_callback 665: 0 active
This section keeps repeating even after the page has been closed. It looks
like something isn't cleaned up completely. Eventualy my harddisk will get
I like the saving modes that exist now, also the view source action is a
I have also two requests:
1 Could you have a look at www.xs4all.nl ?
2 I would like an option in the main menu in which I can type the url. Now I
have to open the default page and then type the url in the string box.
Keep up the good work. I love it!
I just want to congratulate the Netsurf developers. I requested that Netsurf
support image maps and I see in the latest build (27 Mar) that they have
implemented it, together with some improvements to the form elements code!
Invention: non-stick glue.
1) Export -> Text does not set the file type if the file already exists.
2) http://www.heise.de/ does not render anymore. It goes into an endless
loop with "Formatting document". Earlier versions of NetSurf rendered
that page ok (I can't however guarantee that the layout of the site
hasn't changed which could be the reason).
I just downloaded the newest (24 Mar) Netsurf yesterday, and I must say I am
impressed, especially now that form elements are a bit more visible. One
suggestion wrt forms: I see that it is a CSS file that governs the form
elements. Is it maybe possible to use the same style of codes for different
elements for displaying that the RISC OS templates use? Like R5 for buttons,
R7 for writeable, etc.
One other thing which I would like to see support for in Netsurf is image
maps, like the one used in www.delende.co.za . In Netsurf I can get to that
page but not click any link
Keep up the good work!
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