[Netsurf-develop] Netsurf and Cache/proxy authentication
by Keith Hopper
Hi,
I have not yet tried the latest build through an authenticated
cache/proxy, but the build notes do not refer to any changes in this area
that I have spotted.
On first connecting to the cache/proxy, Netsurf (2 Oct 2004 midnight)
asks for user name and password (sometimes - not every time though - after
a denied message and my pressing the reload button) - and the page
requested is retrieved. However, this does not always work for subsequent
requests whether made by clicking on a link or typing into the writable
icon in the Netsurf main window.
It never works for a click on the back button - the first time coming
up with an access denied message - the second click to reload the denied
document seems to succeed -almost- every time; this seems to be similar to
the initial cache/proxy access when first loaded - somehow intermittently
failing/succeeding.
I spent some time yesterday evening trying to determine exactly under
what conditions this access denied window came up - but, after trying
several scenarios which succeeded some times and failed in apparently
identical sequences later (or earlier) the only thing I can safely confirm
is that there is some kind of problem - state-based? - in respect to the
proxy authentication. Even cold booting the machine (RISC PC, 4.02,
StrongARM) could lead to success first or denial first.
I note that the SSL certificate problem is not yet resolved - but
cannot tell if the two may somehow be related.
I am really sorry that I have no hard and fast scenario to offer - I
will, of course, be most happy to undertake specific tests you might wish.
Keith
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Waikato University
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18 years, 3 months
Re: [Netsurf-develop] Re: Images not rendered - not supported
by John-Mark Bell
Firstly, please snip appropriately and quote correctly. Thanks.
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, glavallin wrote:
[snip unnecessary digest information and insert correct attributions]
> Michael Drake wrote:
> > In article <694480f94c.glavallin(a)g/lavallin.ntlworld.com>,
> > glavallin <g.lavallin(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > > http://www.ginoyacht.com/Brokerage.aspx then imput a reference just
> > > to the left of the GO button e.g. g20183 then data is displayed but
> > > no images shown - are they JFIF/EXIF ex Photoshop. Such images do
> > > not appear on the todo list though I hope support can be added
> >
> > NetSurf can handle the images. The server is sending the wrong
> > content type header. (It's saying it's HTML, not a JPEG.)
> >
> > If you go to http://www.ginoyacht.com/YachtData.ashx?id=309&index=0&
> > in NetSurf and save source, you can set the file type to "JPEG" and
> > NetSurf will load it as an image.
>
> Of the available browsers I have here ( Fresco,WebsterXL,Netsurf (latest)
> and Oregano2(demo) Its only the oldest (Fresco) that is capable of viewing
> this site at all. It does render images eventhough the site is saying
> their HTML. It looks like some functionality is being lost in modern
> browsers (Risc os). Its a pity that Netsurf cannot regain this lost ground.
What you're effectively asking for is a work around for the site not being
standards compliant. Such things are unlikely to be high priority for the
foreseeable future.
As for "cannot regain this lost ground", have you looked at the source
code and determined this to be the case?
John.
PS. Apologies if this breaks threading. It appears I can't spell
"sourceforge" correctly.
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Re: Images not rendered - not supported
by glavallin
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2. Re: Images not rendered - not supported? (Michael Drake)
3. Exporting text (Jerome Mathevet)
4. Re: Exporting text (Keith Hopper)
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:54:34 +0100
From: glavallin <g.lavallin(a)ntlworld.com>
To: netsurf-develop(a)lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Netsurf-develop] Images not rendered - not supported?
Hello All
I am trying to access the site http://www.ginoyacht.com and cannot get
past the first page - some of the links are covered.
If I use a saved out link using Fresco showing the brokerage page -
http://www.ginoyacht.com/Brokerage.aspx
then imput a reference just to the left of the GO button e.g. g20183 then
data is displayed but no images shown - are they JFIF/EXIF ex Photoshop.
Such images do not appear on the todo list though I hope support can be added
Geoff
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Message: 2
From: Michael Drake <mike(a)smoothartist.com>
To: netsurf-develop(a)lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:00:40 +0100
Subject: [Netsurf-develop] Re: Images not rendered - not supported?
In article <694480f94c.glavallin(a)g/lavallin.ntlworld.com>,
glavallin <g.lavallin(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> http://www.ginoyacht.com/Brokerage.aspx then imput a reference just to
> the left of the GO button e.g. g20183 then data is displayed but no
> images shown - are they JFIF/EXIF ex Photoshop. Such images do not
> appear on the todo list though I hope support can be added
NetSurf can handle the images. The server is sending the wrong content
type header. (It's saying it's HTML, not a JPEG.)
If you go to http://www.ginoyacht.com/YachtData.ashx?id=309&index=0& in
NetSurf and save source, you can set the file type to "JPEG" and NetSurf
will load it as an image.
Cheers,
Michael
Hello Michael
Of the available browsers I have here ( Fresco,WebsterXL,Netsurf (latest)
and Oregano2(demo) Its only the oldest (Fresco) that is capable of viewing
this site at all. It does render images eventhough the site is saying
their HTML. It looks like some functionality is being lost in modern
browsers (Risc os). Its a pity that Netsurf cannot regain this lost ground.
Geoff
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Developers: changes to makefile
by James Bursa
I've checked in a rewrite of dependency handling in the makefile. Instead of
using gcc to generate the dependencies, there is now a small Perl script
which scans the sources for appropriate #include lines. The aim of this is to
solve some problems with the previous system:
- no dependency checking was used when building under RISC OS
- some dependencies were being missed for the NCOS version
- building the gtk version only still required gccsdk
I have checked in the generated 'depend' file, so that installing Perl is not
required. The new system is also much faster.
Please let me know of problems.
James
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Exporting text
by Jerome Mathevet
Hi,
When I save a web page as text, could there be an option to save as
iso-8859-1 or something ? It's ugly when I have UTF-8 (?) inserted in,
say, an email.
Thank you
--
Jérôme Mathevet
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Images not rendered - not supported?
by glavallin
Hello All
I am trying to access the site http://www.ginoyacht.com and cannot get
past the first page - some of the links are covered.
If I use a saved out link using Fresco showing the brokerage page -
http://www.ginoyacht.com/Brokerage.aspx
then imput a reference just to the left of the GO button e.g. g20183 then
data is displayed but no images shown - are they JFIF/EXIF ex Photoshop.
Such images do not appear on the todo list though I hope support can be added
Geoff
--
Wey Hey we're like monkeys...I can use tools too!
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] window drawing?
by Jeremy C B Nicoll
Build: 07 Aug 01:45 RO 3.70/3
When a window is being drawn on screen it seems to arrive frame first,
with the central section transparent showing other windows/pinboard
through it, then the content arrives.
Every time this happens I tense myself expecting a crash (because in
the past other apps that have done this have produced a crash). Is
this behaviour intentional - perhaps related to the window drawing
probelm that I recently reported (which you fixed)?
--
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Re: NetSurf Test Build (02 Oct 2004 00:00)
by John-Mark Bell
Please email the mailing list, not me direct. Thanks.
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Chris Manning wrote:
> desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 65: version 'Test Build (02 Oct 2004 00:00)'
> desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 72: NetSurf on <riscos>, node <acorn00>, release <4.02>, version <19990818-001>, machine <arm-acorn>
> desktop/options.c options_read 102: failed to open file 'Choices:WWW.NetSurf.Choices'
> riscos/theme.c ro_gui_theme_update_toolbar 756: Created window 1
> riscos/gui.c ro_gui_check_resolvers 420: Inet$Resolvers not set or empty
> riscos/gui.c warn_user 1519: Resolvers (null)
>
> and then I get
>
> Failed to initialise the fetch module (curl_easy_init failed).
>
> NetSurf fails to load.
>
>
> Of course it's fine if Inet$Resolvers is set, but I often use it for
> browsing off-line, which has worked fine with the earlier versions which
> I've used.
Nothing obvious springs to mind. I wonder if James has any ideas?
John.
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Southampton Acorn Users Group - October meeting
by John-Mark Bell
NetSurf related, so I'm forwarding it to here.
John.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
I am pleased to announce that the speaker at the next meeting of the
Southampton Acorn Users Group will be John-Mark Bell, one of the writers
of NetSurf. He will tell us about the history of NetSurf, its current
state of development, and some idea of the direction of its likely future
development, as well as give us a demonstration of the current version of
NetSurf.
As anyone who has used a recent version of it will know, NetSurf is a
remarkable piece of work. John-Mark's presentation promises to be very
interesting.
The meeting will take place on Monday October 11th, in Room S1 of Itchen
College, Middle Road, Bitterne, Southampton, from 19:00 until 21:00.
Admission is free and all are welcome.
For further information, please contact me either by telephone on
023 8022 2312, or by e-mail as davehigton(a)dsl.pipex.com (but don't try
from a Hotmail, AOL or Yahoo account as your e-mail will be deleted as
spam - find another account to e-mail me from!)
Dave
18 years, 4 months
[Netsurf-develop] Tables - nearly done.
by Brian Jordan
Is it possible for one of the developers to indicate when table handling
WRT cellpadding, cellspacing and table borders is planned to be
implemented? Tables used for their primary purpose of displaying rows and
columns of data look so very bland in Netsurf at the moment and to my
mind this is a significant shortcoming of the program.
This is not intended to indicate dissatisfaction with the program
overall, I am very impressed with it, but it would be nice...
--
______________________________________________________________________
Brian Jordan
>From somewhere in North Hampshire. England
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18 years, 4 months
