5:34 p.m.
Small (and mostly useless :) ) test. rjek was right, a Windows port based
on Cairo would bring in quite a lot of depdendencies. Not that much in
size, actually, but a lot compared to a GDI based port.
http://students.info.uaic.ro/~calin.dobos/test/
Feedback appreciated.
Calin
5:47 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 18:34 +0200, Dobos D. Calin wrote:
Small (and mostly useless :) ) test. rjek was right, a Windows port
based
on Cairo would bring in quite a lot of depdendencies. Not that much in
size, actually, but a lot compared to a GDI based port.
http://students.info.uaic.ro/~calin.dobos/test/
Looks interesting. Can you add some drawing primitives to your test,
such as line and box drawing?
Also, you say that the GDI has anti-aliasing - I wasn't aware of that.
Is that a recent addition that making use of would restrict portability
to older editions of Windows? I'd like to see us running on Windows 98,
but if that's a hideous chore, 2000 would do.
Also, for purely selfish reasons, I'd like any Windows port to be
cross-compilable from Linux so we can auto-build it. If you're
currently using MinGW, are you able to check if your work can be built
using MinGW under Linux? (Debian and Ubuntu ship MinGW cross-compiling
tool chains - I don't know about other distributions.)
B.
7:17 p.m.
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Rob Kendrick wrote:
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 18:34 +0200, Dobos D. Calin wrote:
> Small (and mostly useless :) ) test. rjek was right, a Windows port based
> on Cairo would bring in quite a lot of depdendencies. Not that much in
> size, actually, but a lot compared to a GDI based port.
>
> http://students.info.uaic.ro/~calin.dobos/test/
Also, you say that the GDI has anti-aliasing - I wasn't aware of
that.
Is that a recent addition that making use of would restrict portability
to older editions of Windows? I'd like to see us running on Windows 98,
but if that's a hideous chore, 2000 would do.
I'm sorry, I wasn't specific enough. GDI has anti-aliased *fonts*.
I don't know how far back this goes, but I believe that fonts just render
aliased if aa is not possible.
As for the primitives, they render badly, as the new screenshot proves.
If needed, I will set up a win98 box for testing purposes.
Also, for purely selfish reasons, I'd like any Windows port to
be
cross-compilable from Linux so we can auto-build it. If you're
currently using MinGW, are you able to check if your work can be built
using MinGW under Linux? (Debian and Ubuntu ship MinGW cross-compiling
tool chains - I don't know about other distributions.)
It can. I just built it on Arch.
Calin
7:35 p.m.
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 20:17 +0200, Dobos D. Calin wrote:
I'm sorry, I wasn't specific enough. GDI has anti-aliased
*fonts*.
I don't know how far back this goes, but I believe that fonts just render
aliased if aa is not possible.
Ah, sorry - right. Windows 95 with PlusPack, Windows 98 and Windows
2000 has "edge blurring" anti-aliasing, XP onwards has clear type. Just
as long ans it falls back gracefully, I see no issue.
As for the primitives, they render badly, as the new screenshot
proves.
A shame. Fortunately, the only real part of NetSurf's rendering that
benefits from anti-aliasing is the tick and radio button form widgets:
everything else is just straight horizontal or vertical lines, so it
shouldn't matter so much. (RISC OS doesn't get anti-aliased rendering,
either - it's currently a feature unique to the GTK port.)
If needed, I will set up a win98 box for testing purposes.
It should run fine in VMware Server or Virtual PC, both of which are
freely available for Windows, and the former for Linux.
> Also, for purely selfish reasons, I'd like any Windows port
to be
> cross-compilable from Linux so we can auto-build it. If you're
> currently using MinGW, are you able to check if your work can be built
> using MinGW under Linux? (Debian and Ubuntu ship MinGW cross-compiling
> tool chains - I don't know about other distributions.)
It can. I just built it on Arch.
Wooyay!
B.
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