AGM minutes
by Michael Drake
Here are the minutes of the 2013 NetSurf AGM.
Thanks to Daniel Silverstone for recording them.
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NetSurf AGM
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Attendees
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* Daniel Silverstone
* Vincent Sanders
* Michael Drake
* Rob Kendrick
* Chris Young
* François Revol
Welcome
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Michael welcomed everyone to the 2013 NetSurf AGM.
Secretary's Report
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Last year's society committee consisted of:
Michael Drake, Chair
John-Mark Bell, Treasurer
Daniel Silverstone, Secretary
Last year's non-committee membership consisted of:
Rob Kendrick
Chris Young
Vincent Sanders
François Revol
Steve Fryatt
Nobody has left and noone has joined, thus the society stands at 8 members
and as such remains functional.
Treasurer's Report
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Unfortunately we do not have an up-to-date treasurer's report at this time.
John-Mark is unable to attend.
However, we have an August 4th report:
<http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org/20...>
Since August 4th, approximately 300 UKP has been spent on CI server
hosting for the coming year.
Chairman's Report
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The chairman's report can be found at:
<http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org/20...>
Since this report, treeviews have been added. The only blocker against 3.1
is the reworking of forms.
Committee Election
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I have received nominations and seconds for the incumbent society committee
members. No incumbent has declined the nominations. Thus the question to
vote on is "Should the incumbent committee serve for another year?".
Everyone present voted in favour of the incumbents.
Since no votes against were registered before the meeting, the incumbents
are hereby elected to remain as the service committee for the coming year.
Project steering
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Michael reiterated that the short-term project goal is to get 3.1 done
since the release of 3.0 was somewhat rushed. Longer term, our goal
remains dynamic layout and better JS integration, along with correcting
our CSS selection performance which is currently very poor.
Vincent pointed out that JavaScript integration needs the binding
generator's support for inherited elements to be improved and that after
then, it is mostly just writing the DOM bindings. Vincent even believes
that the bindings may be able to be automatically built, but he lacks time
to achieve this for now.
Daniel suggested a hack weekend. Michael agreed and Vincent offered to
host. Rob pointed out that Codethink could possibly host too if people
fancied Manchester instead of Cambridge. Michael suggested we wait and
consult with John-Mark about dates etc. He also called for a possible
attendance list. Michael, Vincent, Daniel and Rob all indicated an
ability to attend.
AI: Vincent to liase with John-Mark and then make a plan for a hack
weekend.
Chris raised that printing gets mentioned to him. This comes back to
content cloning which is a known issue at this time. François asked how
much of printing is platform-specific. Initially printing would be
generating a PDF which makes it mostly core. Rob wondered if it might be
worth writing a PostScript render backend. Michael reminded the meeting
that we'd need stylesheet selection, @media handling etc. and for the
layout engine to properly support pagination.
Daniel proposed that we shelve printing for now, and reconsider it when
determining requirements for the new layout engine. Everyone agreed.
Michael suggested we might be able to achieve some kind of poor quality
print short-term if we wanted.
A.O.B
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### Bug Trackers
Michael raised that the SourceForge bug tracker no longer functions in
NetSurf. Rob suggested that we could fire up a BTS on one of the machines
we use for CI. Daniel asked if Rob had any suggestions for which BTS to
run. Rob stated a dislike for them all.
Vincent pointed out that there's plenty of headroom on the CI master
machine now. Mantis can be run in a VM with one CPU and 512MB of RAM.
Chris indicated that he ran a Mantis for a while and that it worked with
NetSurf when he did. Michael and Vincent both raised importing the old BTS
data.
AI: Rob Kendrick to research bug trackers and suggest one which can be run
reasonably easily and will work with NetSurf. Expectation is Mantis
but there are other options.
### Continuous Integration
Vincent reported:
The CI system now consists of four systems. Two are MacOS-X systems and
two are x86 VMs hosted by Mythic Beasts. The Mythic beasts systems have 2
gigs of RAM each and we run Jenkins and the downloads sites on one and use
the other as a build slave.
Vincent raises the question: What about continued support for the
platforms not under CI, and also MacOS-X PPC. Michael pointed out that
this involves the BeOS port since that cannot be CI'd at this time, and
that MacOS-X PPC cannot run Java 1.6 which prevents us from upgrading
Jenkins.
Michael asked if it is impossible to cross-build the MacOS-X port. Vincent
said yes, hence the native builders.
François pointed out that for BeOS/Haiku to be CI'd, he'd need to sort
out the cross-toolchain. Since the toolchain is not meant for building
outside of Haiku's build process it will be a pain. Rob pointed out that
we'd want the cross-environment to be prepared in the same way as all the
other systems and François agreed.
Vincent pointed out that if we can run Java 1.6 on Haiku then we could
host a "real" build slave on it. François pointed out that non-gui stuff
might be possible and Vincent agreed that the Jenkins slave is headless.
In theory therefore it might be possible.
AI: François to research the build options for Haiku and BeOS and come
back to the group with a proposal for getting it into CI or else
dropped.
Michael advocated dropping MacOS-X PPC after 3.1. Vincent explained that
the PPC port of MacOS-X doubles the build time on the CI.
Michael asked Chris if the Amiga CI builds see much action. Chris said
that he knows of a few people who download them. Vincent asked if there
was any way to improve matters and Chris asked for a 'With JS' build.
Vincent asked Chris to update the Amiga cross-toolchain to the appropriate
Spidermonkey release and then he will enable them.
AI: Chris to sort out Spidermonkey for the Amiga cross-toolchain
Closing
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Michael thanked everyone for attending. Daniel indicated that these
minutes will be posted to the mailing list soon.
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Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
9 years, 4 months
Re: gtk on GNU/Linux: https is not supported
by Christophe Jarry
> Although OpenSSL 1.0.1e and GnuTLS 3.1.5 are installed, I have a pop-up
> window saying "URIOpenError Operation not supported" when I try to open an
> https URI with /usr/bin/netsurf.
The problem came from curl, that I did not build with SSL support. I rebuilt
curl with SSL support and can now open https URIs.
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
help compiling libsvgtiny on linux
by Giampaolo Bellini
Hi all
I'm new to SVG and I was searching for a way to obtain basic SVG items
(as paths) from an svg file... I've cloned the repo with:
git clone git://git.netsurf-browser.org/libsvgtiny.git
but was unable to compile it on linux OS... am I doing something wrong ?
is libsvgtiny not intended to use as a stand-alone lib ?
best regards
Giampaolo
9 years, 6 months
Netsurf-3.0: segmentation fault when opening a new tab
by christophe.jarry＠ouvaton.org
I am on mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu with gtk version of
netsurf-3.0. Whenever I press Ctrl+T, netsurf crashes. I used GDB
which prints the following lines when the crash occurs:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
nsurf_ref (url=0x2be718d0) at utils/nsurl.c:1300.
1300}
I tried some GDB commands:
l gave me:
1295 assert(url != NULL);
1296
1297 url->count++;
1298
1299 return url;
1300 }
p url->count++ gave me:
284
I don't know if this information is sufficient so if you need more
info, please tell me.
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
Re: gtk on GNU/Linux: https is not supported
by Christophe Jarry
> Although OpenSSL 1.0.1e and GnuTLS 3.1.5 are installed, I have a pop-up
> window saying "URIOpenError Operation not supported" when I try to open an
> https URI with /usr/bin/netsurf.
The problem came from curl, that I did not build with SSL support. I rebuilt
curl with SSL support and can now open https URIs.
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
URL bar hotlist indicator toggle
by Michael Drake
This is notice for frontend maintainers.
I've just added hotlist-add.png and hotlist-rmv.png icons to NetSurf's
default icons folder. They are intended for implementing a hotlist
indicator/button as seen on the right-hand side of the URL bars of the
other browsers these days.
hotlist-add.png -- Empty grey star outline.
Shows that current URL is not in hotlist.
Clicking adds current URL to hotlist.
hotlist-rmv.png -- Filled and coloured star.
Shows that current URL is in hotlist.
Clicking allows URL removal from hotlist.
The core hotlist module provides functions for implementing this:
bool hotlist_has_url(nsurl *url);
nserror hotlist_add_url(nsurl *url);
void hotlist_remove_url(nsurl *url);
Finally, the icons can either be loaded directly by frontend code, or
loaded via the content system. See the treeview module's content resource
loading for an example. Resource URLs for the icons are:
resource:icons/hotlist-add.png
resource:icons/hotlist-rmv.png
Cheers,
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Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
9 years, 6 months
gtk on GNU/Linux: https is not supported
by christophe.jarry＠ouvaton.org
Dear list,
I am building netsurf 3.0 on mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu with:
sed -i '/LDFLAGS/s|lm|lm -ldl|' gtk/Makefile.target
make \
PREFIX=/usr \
TARGET=gtk
make install \
PREFIX=/usr \
TARGET=gtk
The build completes successfully.
Although OpenSSL 1.0.1e and GnuTLS 3.1.5 are installed, I have a pop-up window
saying "URIOpenError Operation not supported" when I try to open an https URI
with /usr/bin/netsurf.
What can be the problem?
Thanks,
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
Suggestion for GTK version: replace lcms with lcms2
by christophe.jarry＠ouvaton.org
Hello,
I found that the latest release of lcms, 1.19, dates from 2009. There
is now lcms2, for which latest version dates from 2013. Is there a
reason why GTK version of netsurf depends on lcms instead of lcms2?
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
Build on MIPS (GNU/Linux): LDFLAGS needs libdl
by christophe.jarry＠ouvaton.org
Hello,
I am on a mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu platform. I have built netsurf
and had to replace the following line in gtk/Makefile.target:
LDFLAGS += -lm
by this one:
LDFLAGS += -lm -ldl
Can this change be applied in netsurf branch?
Christophe
9 years, 6 months
